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Anonymous asked in SportsBoxing · 2 months ago

Are the Klitschko brothers the most overrated boxers?

Both Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko don't have strength like Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier. Wladimir punches like a wimp and has never faced legends like Holyfield, Tyson and Lennox Lewis. Vitali is a coward who fears underdogs like Deontay Wilder. Vitali can't even knockout a 32-10 loser like Chisora.

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  • 4 weeks ago

    Last I checked, most rankings had them both at a bit of an arm's length. Wladimir is habitually ranked outside the top 15 by qualified and casual scribes alike, and Vitali outside the top 20. And I'd say that's about what they derserve. They both checked longevity and versatility in a big way (especially Wladimir), but they also proved definitively that they were beatable, without enough of a linchpin win to counteract the dents in their head-to-head viability. Most of the established all time greats are generally considered to have made a stronger case.

    Still, the more you study the Klitschkos, the more you come to admire them. Wladimir's turn towards defensive ring generalship applied every ounce of the skill he showed in his younger, more aggressive days and then some. Watching him take the play away so utterly from boxers with at least some provable skill was like watching a man get crushed by a glacier. He forced opponents who remembered being so fierce and competent, only one fight ago, to chose between hanging back and hoping for a miracle, while the life was slowly ground out of them, or pushing themselves through more lethal pain, in exchange for pretty much nothing. And Vitali's iron jaw and fist make people forget how many tools he had as well, including stiff jabs and mobility that could leave you out in the cold, if you weren't prepared to close that door on him and force him to beat you down the old fashioned way. They did what they were supposed to do with what they had, and in another lifetime, who knows? Maybe the chips could have fallen their way even more.

    But then, that's not what you really want to hear, is it? Like the average old-school gatekeeper, you're so unable to do an honest assessment, you can't even tell that you're already holding all the cards (for now, at least) and have to use blethering hyperbole. Wladimir punches like a wimp compared to Ali? With a higher knockout percentage, even after more fights, far further into his twilight years? (Seriously, you tried to hype the ONE quality at which the greatest and possibly most complete heavyweight boxer was just decent?) Vitali's historically great 87% KO ratio didn't include the fight in which he tore his shoulder early, against one of the better chins he'd faced? And he feared the guy who was just another prospect when he retired, still a few fringe contenders away from a title challenge? Mike Tyson is ranked ahead of them more often than not as well, for the record, but using him in the same sentence you accused them of never beating legends was just icing on the cake.

  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    no, not by any means...............

  • 2 months ago

    Everyone said Wlad would crumble in the golden era of heavyweights. Well, we seen what happened when Anthony joshua, Tyson fury, and Wilder hit the heavyweight scene.

     His career was over faster than a one night stand and this is not even close to being the best era of heavyweights. However, his brother Vitali was the real deal. He was more powerful, confident, and tougher.

  • Anonymous
    2 months ago

    I would say that title belongs to Floyd Mayweather Jr. he was nothing but risk averse throughout his career.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    2 months ago

    What's obvious is you have a problem with the Klitschko's for some reason but Wladimir was the second longest reigning heavyweight champion of all time. 

    Who did Mike Tyson beat?  I'll wait OK, let me know so I can come back and respond, let's discuss this

  • ?
    Lv 7
    2 months ago

    Yes and no... Knockouts in boxing ain't everything. Against chisora, vitali I thought he fought a clever fight and didn't really take any risks. End of the day a win is a win

    The one thing that hurts both fighters is for me the level of competition of the heavyweights was arguably the worst in history. Vitali beat everyone aside from Lewis and Byrd but the top level weren't great. I also think people overlook his 2 losses, I know there's excuses for both but anyone who mocks AJ for his loss to Ruiz, the same applies to Vitali for Byrd. I wouldn't put him in the top 20 of all time due to the level of competition.

    Wladimir is similar for me but he was worse than his brother. Again it comes down to his losses. Corrie Sanders was a nobody when he fought wlad. Rahman knocked him out in 7 rounds a few fights prior to fighting wlad. Corrie Sanders made wlad look amateur. That wasn't even close or a lucky punch. It's was destruction. That for me is worse than Aj- Ruiz, Lewis - McCall/Rahman. Then lamon Brewster knocked him out cleanly.

    Wlad did get better over time but again the competition argument applies. Post that Lewis/bowe/holyfield/Tyson era the competition at heavy was horrendous. When he came up against 2 good fighters, fury cleanly outboxed him and AJ knocked him out.

    For both, I think put them at their peak even 10 years earlier, they don't get near the top 4 in the world. That doesn't diminish what they achieved as you can only beat who is Infront of you. Ill give credit to both, I don't think they ducked anyone, but they didn't have the opposition to really test them, and on the rare occasion they did, both got beat

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